Posts by DeViL DriVeR 76

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If not God, who or what is ultimately in control?

by Guest with Questions in

i believe that we are all subject to either god or man but man is very limited.

as a christian i believe that god is in control.

he did give us free choice to an extent but he is control overall.

DeViL DriVeR 76

If something has to be in control than maybe its just the universe itself. Just the moon alone has more impact in our lives than we may know. Not only does it control the tides and everything else we learned in class like gravity and what not. When people say the crazies come out ona full moon its not just an old wives tale. If you know a cop ask them if they notice a difference on a full moon as compared to any other day.

Last month my first child was born. The maternity ward and waiting room were packed. My girlfriend needed to have an emergency c-section. When we came out into the recovery room there were couples lined up waiting for their scheduled c-sections. I passed by the waiting room on the way to our room and it was packed. The next day everything was empty as well as the day after that and so on until we were discharged. What I left out was my girl was born on a full moon. At the time I didnt know it. When we got to our room I mentioned to the nurse how shocked I was that the place was so crowded. She looked at me with no surprise and said "happens every full moon".

I dont believe in astrology but read your chart sometime. I'm not talking about a wonton cookie fortune or going to some money hungry "Psychic". For most people the characteristics in their charts describe their personalities almost perfectly. And it's not just broad terms they use that can apply to anyone because if you read someone elses they wont apply to you the way yours does.

Tornadoes, volcanoes, wildfires, floods, etc ruin acres upon acres of land constantly, thats also a force we cnat stop so is that in control? who knows.

My parents are still practicing JW's and if you can only hear the ignorance the spew you'd either laugh or puke. Every time something bad happens it's satans fault and everytime something good happens it's god's doing. According to my mom Satan gave her cancer but god influenced the "worldy" people at the cancer treatment center to fly her there and treat her at no charge. Well their god is generous considering he did the same for jews, catholics etc.

I believe there is something out there that is in control but I dont believe it's a being with the ability to make decisions.

P.S. maybe the iluminati or free masons are in control LOL

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Database of WT literature???

by DeViL DriVeR 76 in

is there an online database of wtb&ts publications?

i'm trying to get 1991 "awake!

"/sept 8th, page10 as well as the 1934 yearbook pages 134-138. i know that there are plenty of "apostate" sites quoting whats was written but i need actual hard proof like photocopies or a link with this info from the society itself.

DeViL DriVeR 76

You are awesome!!!

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congregation behind in their donation !!!

by buffalosrfree in

recently at a theo night, it was mentioned that the cong was behind in their donation to the society and it was specifically mentioned that the mags and books cost $$4 and the donations weren't even with the amount of mags and books being requested.

does this not show that the society is still after the congregations for the money for "free" mags and books?

what a bunch of hyprocrites.

DeViL DriVeR 76

Everyone, please try to get a copy of a letter like that so I can post it.
I suspect the IRS would also be VERY interested in learning about this.

If they cheated on their taxes that would be the iceing on the cake. Any JW's who stayed would have to have the IQ's of a doorknob.

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The Great Tribulation is picking up speed!!!!!!!!!!!!

by unbaptized in

the tribulation is really starting to speed up it's pace.

i just read that atleast 3 types of animal and plant life go extinct every hour.

global warming threatens the entire planet, crimes against women and children are at a all time high, honeybees dying off for unexplained reasons, the threat of nuclear war, the ravage of infectious disease.

DeViL DriVeR 76

In the 1960's, the year 1975 began to be proclaimed as the time of the end. A book published by the Watchtower in 1974 stated, "Reports are heard of brothers SELLING THEIR HOMES AND PROPERTY and

LMAO!!! Now that was a dumb move. Didn't bible prophecy or the WTS (It's been so long I can't remember) fortell money being worthless and thrown into the streets? If they even believed their own jibberish they would have kept their homes. At least the house may protect them from a few of God's fireballs during armageddon.

O WAIT!!!! They had to sell their homes in order to be able to afford enough magazines to go out full time preaching. Now I get it.

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congregation behind in their donation !!!

by buffalosrfree in

recently at a theo night, it was mentioned that the cong was behind in their donation to the society and it was specifically mentioned that the mags and books cost $$4 and the donations weren't even with the amount of mags and books being requested.

does this not show that the society is still after the congregations for the money for "free" mags and books?

what a bunch of hyprocrites.

DeViL DriVeR 76

Not sure if I can agree there. Have you ever seen how bethelites live? The bethelites live in poverty. As a child I remember they rarely did anything because their allowance was so low. Even ones high up in the chain didnt live lavish. Yeah some cars were bought that I do know, but in all honesty I have to say that these people do think they are right and I doubt they do this for money because I never saw any with money. Once a month at every meeting, and at every convention and assembly they give an account report stating donations received and bills accumulated, than they state whether they had a surplus or deficit, and for as long as I was going it was mostly about even. On the other hand they are hypocrites but thats a whole other topic, but I really doubt that theres some high JW officials living in luxury wiping their butts with money lol.

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If Creationism is true explain races.

by DeViL DriVeR 76 in

so the bible speaks of how multiple languages came to be in babylon with the tower of babel, you all know the story.

ok so thats the bibles view on languages but what about races?

how are some people light skin others dark?

DeViL DriVeR 76

*Forgot to add this*

In no way am I saying you are wrong because I agree with you that we had to evolve to adapt. What I am saying is there is no way we could have evolved in such a short span of time between now and when the bible was written, and if we could evolve that shortly we would see people evolving today.

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If Creationism is true explain races.

by DeViL DriVeR 76 in

so the bible speaks of how multiple languages came to be in babylon with the tower of babel, you all know the story.

ok so thats the bibles view on languages but what about races?

how are some people light skin others dark?

DeViL DriVeR 76

Humans have an innate ability to adapt to certain environmental situations but that doesn't change them into other species, in fact the genetic diffferences between the races are totally minimal. It's similar to hare, bears, wolves or foxes living in the arctic their fur is white to give then better camouflage in the snow.

Well if thats the case why are australians white? I know the natives were not, I know the whites there were prisoners cast onto that island, and what about south africans? And asians, why are some asians eyes slanted like chinese and some arent like russians? As a matter of fact mongolia and russia border eachother yet the two countries inhabitants look nothing alike. If you take into account the amount of time man has been here on earth according to the bible, it gives no where near enough time for people's features to evolve to better cater to their environment.

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If Creationism is true explain races.

by DeViL DriVeR 76 in

so the bible speaks of how multiple languages came to be in babylon with the tower of babel, you all know the story.

ok so thats the bibles view on languages but what about races?

how are some people light skin others dark?

DeViL DriVeR 76

So the bible speaks of how multiple languages came to be in babylon with the tower of babel, you all know the story. Ok so thats the bibles view on languages but what about races? How are some people light skin others dark? How do some have round almond shaped eyes while others have slanty eyes? If we were all created from the same two people why dont we all look similar? Go to any country (excluding the USA) and a good portion of the people have similar features and skintone.

I dont know where I stand on evolution or creation but evolution is teh only thing that explains race, we adapt to our environment. Whats your thoughts? It's just hard for me to trust a book thats starts off in the beginning god created the heavens and the earth goes on and on and forgets to mention key things like dinosaurs for instance.

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Database of WT literature???

by DeViL DriVeR 76 in

is there an online database of wtb&ts publications?

i'm trying to get 1991 "awake!

"/sept 8th, page10 as well as the 1934 yearbook pages 134-138. i know that there are plenty of "apostate" sites quoting whats was written but i need actual hard proof like photocopies or a link with this info from the society itself.

DeViL DriVeR 76

Thanks for all the info. And borgia if you have it online can you email it to [email protected]? Thanks alot!

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congregation behind in their donation !!!

by buffalosrfree in

recently at a theo night, it was mentioned that the cong was behind in their donation to the society and it was specifically mentioned that the mags and books cost $$4 and the donations weren't even with the amount of mags and books being requested.

does this not show that the society is still after the congregations for the money for "free" mags and books?

what a bunch of hyprocrites.

DeViL DriVeR 76

Ha ha! Let's not forget about the quotas. When I left if I remember correctly publishers had a quota of 12 hours per month and I think 10 magazines or so. Pioneers were 90 hours and who knows the magazines they averaged. There was never a demand to place a certain amount, but boy did they have a tactful way of making you feel bad about what you did or didnt do. I remember these sheets of paper I had to fill out stating the hours I preached and magazines and books I placed. And even though we were not "forced" I do remember elders discussing why I spent so little time in service or placed such little literature in certain months. I hear things are different now about the societies view towards college(which I assume was due to all the witnesses out of work because they couldnt find work) but at the time I was there they talked badly about going to college which depressed me to the point of me dropping out of high school because I felt whats the point? The reason why I am mentioning this is due to the fact that pioneers were expected to put in 90 hours a month and not even 10% could hold down a job and do that, yet at the same time they had to donate money to get the tens or for some hundreds of magazines they placed each month. Needless to say my congregation was extremely poor.

And the 76 is for the year I was born =)